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Mission Success: DUSK Music Festival

DUSK Music Festival 2025 took over downtown Tucson this past weekend, delivering a full-spectrum festival experience fans won’t soon forget. This weekend wasn’t just about the music—it delivered immersive art, interactive installations, and culinary creativity. Collaborations with the University of Arizona’s School of Art and Tucson ARTS brought sculptures, lighting, and digital works to life. Festival-goers explored paintings of each artist and discovered playful surprises like the portal “Porto Potty” stage, adding whimsical energy to the weekend.

The Immersive World of DUSK

Walking through the festival felt like moving through living artwork. Multiple open-air stages strategically placed throughout Jácome Plaza made navigating the festival effortless. Hidden stages, photo-ops, and activity zones ensured exploration rewarded fans with unique experiences. It created memories far beyond the music. Lines flowed smoothly, and stages offered varying vibes—from high-energy drops at Presidio Stage to intimate moments at lesser-known nooks. After-parties carried the festival energy late into the night, turning intimate venues into dance-fueled extensions of the main event. Fans left exhausted but elated, fully immersed in the city’s festival culture.

DUSK Music Festival 2025 Moon Lvnding Group Photo

Standout Sets & Notable Highlights

  • Ward Andrews throwing down in the hidden Porto Potty stage
  • ACRAZE with his endless groove of dynamic variations that kept the energy high throughout his set
  • Levity delivering smooth, melodic transitions that flowed seamlessly through heavy, driving basslines
  • Ekonovah igniting the crowd early on with his intricate rhythms
  • INZO closing the Presidio stage with his wonky bass and lasers slicing through the Tucson night sky

As an all-ages event, seeing families, friends, and fans of every generation come together in the heart of Tucson warmed the soul and added a truly special energy to the weekend. Whether you were grabbing a DUSK duckie, watching the plaza light up in every color, sampling specially curated drinks, or playing games at the vendor booths, the festival offered something for everyone.

Final Impressions

DUSK Music Festival 2025 will be one I forever hold close to my heart. It proved why it’s more than just a festival, but an experience. It unfolded in every corner, but the community is what made it so special. I arrived ready for a weekend of bass and beats, and left with new stories, fresh favorites, and a deeper appreciation for how a festival can spark connection.

Walking through the plaza felt like stepping into a living, breathing world—sound, color, and energy intertwined at every turn. Fans moved through immersive visuals, wandered between glowing lights, and discovered moments that made the weekend feel both personal and larger-than-life. From hidden stages to playful installations, DUSK 2025 reminded me that a festival isn’t just something you attend—it’s something you become a part of.

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Mission Success: Escape Psycho Circus 2025

As the clock struck midnight, the haunting winds of Halloween weekend swept through the NOS Event Center, transforming it into a surreal landscape of terror and exhilaration! The Escape Psycho Circus brought thrill-seekers, outcasts, and lovers of the macabre to embrace the chaos within its haunted gates. The night promised not just a show but an unforgettable plunge into a realm where fear and fantasy intertwined, and boy, did it deliver on that promise! Escape Psycho Circus was a Mission Success: all treats and no tricks!

Walking through the ominous entrance was like stepping into a ghostly realm. The atmosphere was electric, pulsing with a thrilling blend of excitement and dread. Five haunting stages awaited, each designed to captivate and mesmerize. The very first stop, the Big Top, set the tone for the evening. This iconic stage vibrated with exhilarating sets that echoed through the night, featuring Marshmellow B2B DJ Snake, Deorro, Sidepiece, and Dimitri Vegas.

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Among the unforgettable stages was  Sewer District, a hidden enclave pulsing with pyrotechnic eruptions and lasers that lit up the night sky. Another standout feature of Sewer District was the drone light shows oozing into the night sky. This was the place to be, especially when San Holo delivered an unforgettable Wholesome Riddim set. Jessica Audifred whipped the mosh pits into a frenzy, while Nghtmre B2B Peekaboo offered spine-tingling sets that perfectly balanced eerie charm and high-energy beats. As ghosts and ghouls roamed, ATLiens turned heads in their outrageous blow-up bikini costumes. Every performance left attendees breathless, each as chilling as the night air.

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The chaos continued to surge through the night, particularly at the Feeding Grounds stage. A single misstep could land you front row with hard-hitting sets from Angerfist, Kayzo, and Dual Damage. The frenetic energy enveloped the crowd, transforming them into erratic prey caught in the crossfire of explosive beats that made hearts race and adrenaline spike. This primal experience unraveled like an untamed beast, all bodies moving as one.

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Navigating to The Cage, the uninhibited essence of the underground scene took over. Airrica, Amelie Lens, and Vintage Culture ignited absolute mayhem, their techno beats ripping through the air and captivating the audience. Here, the outcasts of the circus found peace in the shadows. The scorched grounds beneath our feet were a fortress for anarchy.

The clock ticked on and on, except at the Warehouse, where circus history was frozen. Haunting performances from Rossy B2B Pauline Herr, Jawns, and What So Not left the crowd possessed in the once-abandoned storehouse.

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The atmosphere buzzed with anticipation as fortune tellers revealed fates interwoven with madness. The air was thick with the oozing rhythms undulating from the depths of the event space, drowning attendees in hypnotic beats. Throughout the Escape Psycho Circus, every corner unveiled new surprises and haunted houses designed to evoke spine-chilling jump scares. These thrill rides promised heart-stopping adventures and eerie attractions that made each moment feel alive with suspense. The creaks and groans of the venue further amplified the surreal ambiance. 

Didn’t get enough of Escape Psycho Circus? Tickets for Escape Halloween 2026 are on sale now, with a starting down payment of just $9.95, providing a range of experiences including General Admission at $219.95, GA+ at $259.95, and VIP at $339.95. Whether you’re gathering a crew of friends to brave the frights together or jump headfirst into the madness solo, the promise of escape intrigues and entices. Immerse yourself in an enchanting nightmare, where once you step through those haunting gates, you may find yourself wishing the night would never end.

Prepare for a fright all year long with the links below!

Mission Success: NERO At The Church

NERO couldn’t stay away from Denver for too long. They returned this past weekend to take over The Church courtesy of BASSRUSH. This was the perfect venue for the dark and cinematic music that has defined their legacy for nearly two decades. It’s been just a year since the trio treated the Bass Capital to a rare live performance at the Ogden following the release of their third album, Into the Unknown. This time, they opted for a full-throttle DJ set, and Denver showed up in force.

Local talent set the tone early. Jetset opened the night with a smooth run of liquid drum & bass, warming the room with rolling percussion. Dissolves followed, flipping the energy into a heavier gear as he fired through a mix of classic and contemporary dubstep. This sent the first waves of headbangers into motion. By the time NERO took over the decks, The Church was packed shoulder-to-shoulder from the booth to the back wall.

The crowd itself was a testament to NERO’s cross-generational appeal. Longtime fans who’ve followed the group since their Welcome Reality era were interspersed with younger bassheads in INZO and Ganja White Night jerseys. A blend of nostalgia and fresh energy that perfectly matched the night’s vibe.

With twenty years of drum & bass and dubstep in their arsenal, NERO delivered exactly the kind of genre-blending set fans hoped for. They kicked off their set with their thunderous RL Grime collaboration “Renegade,” which set the tone immediately. What followed was a curated journey through their catalogue. They weaved standout cuts from Into the Unknown with the hits from Welcome Reality and Between II Worlds.

Flux Pavilion’s remix of “Must Be The Feeling”

In addition to their hits, NERO also played some other gems, including Taiki Nulight’s rework of “Innocence,” Flux Pavilion’s iconic remix of “Must Be The Feeling,” and their 2017 collaboration with ZHU, “Dreams.” When the opening notes of “Promises” rang out to close the night, the entire room erupted into a full sing-along.

The production elevated the experience even further. Insane laser beams cut through well-timed CO2 blasts while the Void sound system delivered every bassline and snare hit with crystal clarity.

Every NERO set is always an experience, whether it’s live or a DJ set. Catch them at one of their remaining tour dates and at Apocalypse Zombieland. Keep up with everything they’ve got going on by using the social links below.

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Mersiv Making Waves On Audiosphere Tour

Champion of Pretty Dark Loud music, Mersiv has been on a roll in 2025! On April 4, he released his new seven-track album 444 to widespread fan support. April 4 was also the day of his Attack On Mars Red Rocks show, where he debuted the Audiosphere. The Audiosphere is a collaborative project with AKA Event Production to create an immersive audio experience that surrounds the venue with 360 sounds using an array of speakers. For a more detailed description of the tech, check out Mersiv’s reel.

Lucky for Mersiv fans, he was able to adapt the same Audiosphere technology used at Red Rocks for a North American tour this fall. With two shows already in the books, Mersiv is back on the road this Friday, November 14 in Minneapolis and on November 15 in Chicago. After this weekend, he’s still got another eight tour dates over the next six weekends through December 20.

Moon Lvnding was privileged to attend his Audiosphere Tour debut in Brooklyn to check out the innovative sound technology and talented bass artists. The support for Mersiv’s show at Industry City was outstanding!

Mystic Methods was a new name for me, and I was quite impressed by the duo’s performance. They each wore neon light masks with slightly different designs and humorously held up a dry-erase board with messages throughout the set. People were engaged and getting down. The good vibes continued with Dennett, fresh off a stacked summer festival run. He played a good mix of originals, remixes, and dubstep classics to keep the crowd moving.

As the main attraction, Mersiv shone brightly. His new tunes from the 444 album sounded great incorporated into the new set. “Dawn” really stood out for me. Even more eye-catching was how the lighting visuals were incorporated into the 360 speaker setup for the Audiosphere. With a view from the elevated green room, one could clearly see waves of color changing all around the venue as Mersiv and the lighting tech used the dynamic 360 setup.

The sound, on the other hand, was a bit hit or miss depending on your spot in the Audiosphere. While the event space had an eight-speaker array setup fully around the venue, the space was more rectangular than square. There were spots with great sound from either side of the room, giving that full surround sound experience as was intended. But toward the sides, the sound felt a bit imbalanced. All that being said, The Audiosphere Tour has an innovative new sound design that creates a fun live show. I’m sure with more time and experience deploying the sound technology, the sound quality and production will improve even more.

With all the tour stuff going on, Mersiv still had time to make literal waves while on board EDSEA this November. From what he shared on social media, it sounds like he had a great time performing at Insomniac’s EDM cruise event. Then, once the tour wraps up, Mersiv has a few dates booked to ring in the new year, including a performance at Eternal NYE in Orlando on December 30 and To The Future NYE in Nashville on December 31. To keep up with all the latest announcements and new music from Mersiv, be sure to check him out on his socials below.

Cool Customer Unveils New EP ‘Thank You For Holding’

After teasing fans with two new releases, “The MF” and “Peppermint,” at the beginning of October, fans have been anxious for another full project from Cool Customer. Well, he just delivered his new EP, Thank You For Holding. With five tracks, including the two singles, the EP showcases Cool Customer’s signature groovy, glitch-hop vibe as a pioneer in experimental bass. Blending distorted textures, nostalgic flips, and hip-hop influence, the project brings out the core of Cool Customer’s style: a mix of weird and heavy, of playful and precise.

I can’t wait to release this one,” said Cool Customer. “It’s been a while since I’ve shared an extended body of work, and creating this five-track EP was an extremely challenging and personal journey. I included some brand-new songs, plus a few tunes from both of my ‘Customer Service’ mixes. This one really means a lot to me.

The EP opens with “Say What,” a glitchy experimental bass track with a groovy bassline and a fun sample that drops in an old instruction manual video. “The MF” comes next with a chill, groovy intro that flips into a hard-hitting drop with the “The MF” lyric before settling into a more atmospheric ending. “Peppermint” leans into a heavier sound with layered distortion and an ending that feels almost sinister, especially with the peppermint patty sample mixed in.

“Hunky Dory” brings in another heavy bass cut made to get the dance floor moving weirdly. The final track, the EP’s namesake, brings a more upbeat vibe and closes the project in a way that feels complete and satisfying.

Thank You For Holding arrives on the heels of two huge moments in his career, including supporting Tape B’s debut at Red Rocks in October and making his own debut at Griz’s sold-out Seven Stars Festival. He will also join tour dates on national tours for Tape B and OPIUO through the end of 2025.

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Fans can catch the new EP live as Cool Customer heads out for a fall run of shows. He will hit Roadrunner in Boston on November 14, Believe Music Hall in Atlanta on December 6, The Warfield in San Francisco on December 12, BSideLA in Los Angeles on December 13, and Eternal NYE in Orlando on December 31. To stay updated on new music, tour info, and everything he has coming next, make sure to follow Cool Customer on all socials below.

Heyz & Wodd Bring “Sexy Back” With New Release

Heyz continues to push the boundaries with each new chapter, crafting visual narratives, innovative branding, and unconventional concepts that keep fans engaged and eager for more. Now available on all streaming platforms via Kannibalen Records, Heyz dropped another masterpiece with the reimagined version of “Sexy Back” featuring Wodd. This remix features a modern twist, combining punchy stabs and unique minimal drops that truly ignite the energy!

Heyz and Wodd have set the stage for an unforgettable and electrifying remix. By blending Heyz’s intense bass with Wodd’s creative spirit, “Sexy Back” offers fans an exhilarating experience. This track masterfully merges the gritty essence of riddim with the dynamic energy of dubstep, all while incorporating a contemporary flair that pushes the boundaries of bass music into daring territory.

“Wodd is honestly one of my favorite producers right now,” Heyz shared, “so it was really fun to work on this sexy, whomper-stomper of a track with him. It hits so so hard live, and I know people have been after it for a while, so we’re stoked to finally release it!”

Wodd added, “I’ve always wanted to twist this track into something wild and wobbly, and teaming up with Heyz on this one was perfect. We went all out, made it totally our own, but still gave mad respect to the original. Honestly, this remix feels fresh, weird, and exactly what it needs to be.”

Heyz has embarked on his extensive North American headline tour in August, “HEYZ’d and Confused.” Spanning over 30 dates, this tour is delivering an unforgettable experience for attendees. Fans can expect a thrilling combination of Heyz’s signature hard-hitting basslines, complemented by captivating visuals that enhance the overall atmosphere, featuring unexpected twists and surprises to keep energy levels high, reflecting the raw, unfiltered passion Heyz brings to each performance. 

Stay HEYZ’d with the links below.

Get To Know Future Joy Before Hulaween 2025

Another day closer to Hulaween 2025, and another artist you can’t miss: Future Joy. The DJ power couple, Emily Cooper and Zach Simms, are bringing their vibrant, high-energy sets to Suwannee Music Park this weekend. Returning for their fifth Hula performance, this year’s set marks their debut on the fan-favorite Amphitheater Stage, where fans can catch them at 4:45 PM on Thursday. They’re unveiling a Toy Story theme this time around, inviting fans to get creative with costumes and join the adventure.

Hailing from St. Petersburg, Florida and Denver, Colorado, Future Joy blends elements of house, funk, drum and bass, jazz, and more with their signature vocals and live instrumentation. Both Cooper and Simms play keys, sing, and DJ, while Simms brings extra funk with tenor, baritone, and bass saxophones. Known for getting the dance floor moving and building genuine connections through music and joy, Future Joy is quickly becoming the soundtrack to elevating both mind and soul.

Future Joy has been on a festival roll, performing at some of the most iconic events across the country. Apart from Hulaween, they’ve taken the stage at Bonnaroo, Joshua Tree, Treefort, Elements, Secret Dreams, Resonate, and more. The duo has also played direct support for artists like Manic Focus, BoomBox, Sunsquabi, The Polish Ambassador, Moon Hooch, and Marvel Years, among others.

To wrap up the summer, they released their debut full-length studio album “NOW” in July, a 13-track journey that reflects their deep love and musical connection as they travel the country performing from their RV. Having recently tied the knot at Joyful Festival in February, that raw emotional energy shines through, giving the album an intimate and heartfelt touch. At its core, “NOW” is also a celebration of living fully in the present moment, capturing the joy, spontaneity, and gratitude that define both their music and their lives.

We can’t wait to catch Future Joy’s signature sax-infused energy at Hulaween this weekend! See you at their set on Thursday, October 30, at 4:45 PM on The Amphitheater Stage. 

If you can’t get enough after Suwannee, the music doesn’t stop there! The duo will keep the vibes rolling with upcoming shows at Asheville Music Hall on December 31, Animas City Theatre in Durango, CO on January 17, Sheridan Opera House in Telluride, CO on January 18, Meow Wolf Denver’s Convergence Station on January 23, and Joyful 2026 in St. Petersburg, FL on January 31. Check out their socials below to stay up to date on new music and show announcements!

BVRRN And DijahSB Crash The Glass On “Rebound”

Up and coming DJ/producer BVRRN teams up with DijahSB for infectious pop-house anthem “Rebound.” Set to release on Brainjack, “Rebound” is BVRRN’s third release with the coveted label. “Rebound” is a fantastic example of modern genre fusion, executed with surgical precision. The track is both a hard-hitting club weapon and a lyrically compelling rap song that feels both relevant and personal.

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BVRRN’s production can be best described by its kinetic energy and impeccable sound design. The beat is defined by a deep, almost rubbery bassline, containing a modulated synth that acts less like background support and more like a second melodic lead. Engineering songs in this fashion is BVRRN’s specialty, with the bassline hitting with percussive weight while retaining an elastic, melodic quality. The rhythmic backbone of “Rebound” is anchored by four-on-the-floor kicks, but the crucial element is the precision-cut, high-frequency shuffling hi-hats and delayed percussion accents. This complex structure allows the track to feel both driving and exceptionally bouncy.

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DijahSB’s delivery is smooth, conversational, and carries a wry, knowing wit, seamlessly riding the complex, fast-paced rhythm without ever sounding rushed. They excel at using highly specific, observational lines that make the listener feel like they are sharing a casual conversation, reinforcing their position as a voice for those navigating modern life’s anxieties and triumphs. This lyrical depth is what transforms “Rebound” from a standard club track into a lasting anthem.

Dive deeper into the worlds of BVRRN and DijahSB by following them and blasting their music through the links below. Their careers are expanding, so prepare to be swept away in a world of immaculate vibes and phenomenal music. Also, make sure to find “Rebound” headlining our New Music Friday playlist this week!

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LYNY’s Debut Album ‘Noise To Dance To’ Redefines His Sound

Following a multi-year run of collaborations and high-energy singles, LYNY finally delivered his debut album, Noise To Dance To, last week on October 17. The Chicago-born artist delivers an incredible showcase of his evolution, pushing his signature sound into fresh, uncharted territory, while balancing creativity and experimentation with familiarity.

Noise To Dance To exemplifies LYNY’s growth as an artist, while still effortlessly maintaining the signature LYNY sound his fans have come to love. LYNY’s sound has always been raw, gritty, and unique, which has helped him to stand out in what seems to be a never-ending ocean of bass talents.

The Lead Single: “Section”

The project features 11 tracks, which are all new, unreleased songs except for the lead single, “Section.” The song manipulates a vocal sample from Benny Benassi’s classic, “Satisfaction,” warping it to fit his aesthetic using his gritty LYNY bass and funky sound design.

The Classic LYNY Vibe

Tracks like “Step To It,” “Fire,” “Breaker,” and the Cozy Kev-collab “Triumph” bring that classic LYNY energy and are reminiscent of the early releases that helped him grow his audience over the years. His collaborations with PEEKABOO from last year come to mind, including his remix of “Bumpin'” and their collaboration on “Like That.” Those tracks would sound right at home within the first half of the album.

Pushing Boundaries

As the project unfolds, one can hear LYNY at his most adventurous. He spends the remainder of the album exploring new sounds and genres, particularly with “Sellout” and “King,” two raw, gritty drum & bass cuts that accelerate the project’s momentum. As the album progresses, Noise To Dance To begins to take shape as more than just a bass record. LYNY experiments with tempo, rhythm, and sound design throughout the project, and comes off as confident throughout, bridging his underground bass roots with elements from more mainstream influences to create something truly special.

The middle of the record shows off even more versatility, as LYNY fuses heavy trap and house elements on “Remember,” “Rude,” and “Money.” All three are fun, high-energy tracks that would set fire to any dance floor. “Money” stands out in particular, a vibrant trap anthem that channels the style and energy of many of the releases from trap-trailblazers like Knock2 and ISOXO.

Immediately following those high-energy tracks lies “Heard You,” a complete contrast to the previous tracks. “Heard You” slows the tempo and dives into a moodier space. Euphoric, heavy, atmospheric synths are highlighted alongside emotional vocals and synth chops, creating a cinematic atmosphere. It allows the listener to stop and breathe for a brief moment before nose-diving right back into the high-BPM drum & bass chaos of “Sellout.”

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LYNY’s Studio Mindset

Beneath all the bass and energy, Noise To Dance To feels like a celebration of the creative process itself. It’s a record born from the joy of experimenting, a theme LYNY directly acknowledged when reflecting on the making of the album through an Instagram post last week.

We had this sort of comical saying we always said in the studios when things got a bit too technical or hard: ‘we’re really just making noise on a computer,’ and I think that somehow has done wonders for us.

It’s that playful, casual, and experimental mindset that defines Noise To Dance To.

The Finale: “Digital Runaway”

Closing the album is “Digital Runaway,” a remarkable finale that trades the heavy bass elements throughout the project for emotion and melody. An euphoric vocal sample rides over the nostalgic melodies that come together to create a true classic festival banger, reminiscent of hits from the early 2010s EDM era.

“Digital Runaway” is the perfect ending to a project that celebrates and highlights LYNY’s creativity, growth, and development as an artist, and the joy that he feels in creating exactly what this project was meant to be: Noise To Dance To.

LYNY’s Next Chapter

With Noise To Dance To, LYNY wasn’t just trying to cement his place in bass music; he’s completely redefining his sound and versatility as an artist. He’ll hit the road on a nationwide tour for the new album starting in November, working alongside the California-based event brand Brownies & Lemonade for tour support. From start to finish, the creativity and excitement can be felt within every track, and it’s obvious that this album was just as fun for LYNY to make as it is for the listener to experience. Don’t miss out on a chance to hear it live; tickets are on sale now.

BLXK MNTN’s New EP Will Make You ‘SWEAT’

BLXK MNTN makes a killer HypnoVizion debut with his all-new immersive EP, SWEAT.

A sexy club vibe tied together with mechanical builds and daunting drops, SWEAT fits in perfectly with HypnoVizion’s ominous aesthetic. The soundscape is dark, even sultry, and features more of a phonk sound than BLXK MNTN’s previous work. 

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BLXK MNTN describes SWEAT as “a slow slide into a darker world, part club and part synthetic dreamscape.”

“Lost her Soul” serves as a perfect opener to the EP, showcasing BLXK MNTN’s signature sound and storytelling skills.

The first track outlines the story of a succubus-esque subject and her dark tie to bass music. Its pulsing club beat beckons listeners to let the music control their movement. 

BLXK MNTN follows up with “Ghost In The Shell,” a faster-paced track bound to excite listeners. While each song reveals his storytelling skills, SWEAT comes together as one complete narrative with each devilish dance track.

“Each track creates its own atmosphere, but together they tell a story that feels raw, intimate, and a little haunted,” BLXK MNTN said about SWEAT.

The second of three tracks, “Ghost In The Shell” is a precursor to the climax of the album.

Finally, the EP’s namesake, “Sweat,” is an absolutely nasty finisher to the album. Its creeping intro is a perfect build into the heaviest drops of all three songs. 

While wrapping up the story effortlessly, BLXK MNTN creates tension with the longest buildups and driving lyrics. The song commands listeners to “Sweat” before ripping into a gritty baseline. 

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“Its sound is inspired by artists like Street Fever, Meus, Gesaffelstein, and Rezz, and lives somewhere between hypnotic grooves, distorted emotion, and dystopian energy,” BLXK MNTN said.

Being a music producer, DJ, and illustrator, BLXK MNTN is the full package. He’s a multimedia artist rising in the bass scene, quickly and quietly.

With previous music releases on labels Welcome Records and Deadbeats, BLXK MNTN is on the way to the top. His graphic work appears on releases from Deadbeats and HypnoVizion, and powers visuals for artists like Kayzo and Riot Ten.

It’ll be no surprise if BLXK MNTN’s audio-visual work becomes more prominent in the heavy, dark side of EDM soon. Listeners can stream SWEAT by BLXK MNTN here.